What Lilo & Stitch Teaches about Healthcare, Family & Social Safety Nets
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 19 June 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Pastor and author Sharon Hodde Miller joins Esau McCaulley for a surprising conversation about the live-action Lilo & Stitch and how a children's film quietly captures the realities of single motherhood, economic pressure, and communal grace. Then, Esau and Sharon talk about the challenges of pastoring in a polarizing time and how their online persona compares to their pastoral persona. Also, we have a Disney movie draft and a winner is declared.
0:00 - Theme Song
1:25 - Disney Movie Draft
13:40 - Lilo and Stitch
15:48 - Why Does Sharon Prefer the Remake?
22:42 - Single Motherhood
25:03 - Sponsor - No Small Endeavor - Award-winning podcast where theologians, philosophers, and best-selling authors talk about faith with Lee C. Camp. Start listening today: https://pod.link/1513178238
27:10 - Being a Pastor with a Platform
40:45 - Free of Me
50:36 - End Credits
Free of Me: Why Life is Better When It's Not About You by Sharon Hodde Miller:
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. |
| 0:07.1 | Welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast. |
| 0:08.8 | I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. |
| 0:10.8 | Today we're joined on the podcast by somebody I wanted to have on the podcast for a long time. |
| 0:15.3 | Sharon Hottie Miller. |
| 0:16.8 | Did I say it right, Heidi? |
| 0:18.5 | Oh, you got it. |
| 0:19.4 | Okay. |
| 0:20.3 | Co-paster of Bright City Church in Durham, North Carolina, podcaster, and author, public figure, all of these great things. |
| 0:28.4 | Thanks for coming on the podcast. |
| 0:30.3 | I am so pumped to be with you. |
| 0:32.5 | And we have Mike. |
| 0:33.8 | Wow. |
| 0:34.6 | That's the intro I get. |
| 0:37.0 | Esau. Wait, wait, wait, I get. Esau. |
| 0:38.1 | Wait, wait, wait, you just called me yesterday. |
| 0:41.0 | I'm world famous at this point. |
| 0:43.7 | I was doing a podcast, no, an interview and doing a Zoom thing in England, and the person |
| 0:51.6 | introduced me as Issa Maca Calle Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. |
| 0:54.5 | And he says, he sits at the feet of Mike and learns on the East Summer McCauley podcast. |
| 0:58.7 | I'm like, this is now getting, it started as a joke. |
| 1:01.0 | And now it's getting out of control. But anyways, we'll say producer Mike. And today we're going to be talking about a lot of stuff, |
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