Hello, everyone, welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast.

I'm your host, Esau McCauley.

And we have a special guest today in studio.

We're like, we're big time.

We're like studio guests.

People are flocking to us.

People are flocking.

Or they're in town and then they just come by the studio where they're here. We actually have Rachel Jordan. She is a marine biologist and she's the author of the book, If the Ocean Has a Soul, a Marine biologist pursuit of truth through the deep waters of faith and science. Thank you so much for coming, Rachel. Thank you for having me, you guys. It's a thrill to be here. Yes. And we also have, as usual, producer Mike. It's good to be here. Wow. I mean, I think Rachel represents the audience. The people want more, Mike. Yes. Oh, the people. Oh, my goodness. We're not going to start that for today. What I wanted to do is in honor of Rachel here. We have this game that we play called Low State's Conspiracy Theory. It's stuff that we believe is true, but it's slightly a conspiracy theory. But if it's not true, the world's not going to end. So do you got one? I've got one. It's got to be related to the ocean or water.

Okay, I've got two, but I got to pick one.

Yeah, pick one.

Okay.

All right, here's mine. It's a little ridiculous. It's ocean adjacent. Okay. You know the movie Titanic? Yes, of course. you know,

and when,

you know,

Jack and Rose are in the water

and there's the door

and supposedly there's only room for Rose.

Only Rose.

There is room for both of them.

Oh, you know, Jack and Rose are in the water and there's the door and supposedly there's only room

for Rose. Only Rose. There is room for both of them. Oh, that's, I agree. Is that a conspiracy

theory though? It is because, like, MythBusters did this thing that was like, oh, no, there

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