What Is Nancy Pelosi Thinking?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

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🗓️ 11 July 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Can corporate America be a force for social liberalism? Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt debate the corporatization of Pride Month, Nike's about-face on the Betsy Ross flag and the political efficacy of “woke capitalism.” Then they discuss the tensions roiling Democrats in the House of Representatives. By lobbing criticism at progressive members of the caucus, just what is Speaker Nancy Pelosi playing at? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0	I'm Michelle Goldberg.
0:01.4	I'm Ross Douthett.
0:02.6	I'm David Lee Unhart, and this is the argument.
0:06.2	This week, woke capitalism.
0:09.1	What is it?
0:10.1	And is it a good thing?
0:11.6	You can reliably count on a lot of these companies
0:15.2	to explicitly take for the liberal side.
0:17.8	Then, we talk about the tensions between speaker Nancy Pelosi
0:22.0	and House Progressives.
0:23.6	I don't know what's going on with Nancy Pelosi,
0:26.2	and I find this all sort of mind-boggling.
0:29.7	And finally, a recommendation.
0:32.3	To show that channels that deepest anxieties,
0:36.5	at least that liberals are feeling about
0:38.8	what life is like right now.
0:51.2	It's called woke capitalism.
0:53.5	Progressives trying to use consumer power
0:55.9	to influence politics.
0:58.0	The football player Colin Kaepernick has persuaded Nike
1:00.8	not to sell a shoe featuring a colonial era American flag.
1:05.9	Boycott Home Depot was trending on social media this week,
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