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Pints With Aquinas

What I Wish I Knew When I Converted | Ft. Dr. Scott Hahn | Last Call Ep. 3

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.87K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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In this episode of Last Call, Matt shares his personal journey from agnostic teenager to committed Catholic, and answers your questions on the topic of conversion. Then, Matt sits down with renowned Catholic theologian, Dr. Scott Hahn, who reflects candidly on what advice he would give his 1986 self upon converting to Catholicism, including the mistakes he made with friends, family, and within his own marriage in his early zeal. Pints: Last Call Ep. 3 - - - 📚Resources Mentioned:  Does God Exist: https://a.co/d/02GZhPbK Theology and Sanity: https://a.co/d/098ZNB9F Reasons to Believe: https://a.co/d/0gaWVxQr Why We’re Catholic: https://a.co/d/06rJPKuN Rome Sweet Home: https://a.co/d/00Gxrr2k Ignatius Catholic Study Bible: https://a.co/d/00DQPOyg - - - Today's Sponsors: PreBorn: Make a difference for generations to come. Donate securely online at https://preborn.com/PINTS or dial #250 keyword 'BABY' Good Ranchers:  Get $25 off your first order and save up to $500 a year when you use code PINTS at https://GoodRanchers.com   Hallow: Deepen your personal relationship with God today. Visit https://hallow.com/MattFradd to get 3 months free. - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠⁠ 🍿 The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of the Merlin is now streaming exclusively on DailyWire+               Watch now: https://dwplus.watch/ThePendragon - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Gooday, gooday, welcome. Today we want to talk about the subject of conversion. I'm going to be

0:05.7

sharing a little bit about how I came to faith in Christ. We are then going to be taking your

0:10.1

phone calls and your questions. And then later on on the show, I'm going to be sitting down with

0:14.7

Dr. Scott Hahn and I'm going to be asking him advice for converts and how to act after you have converted and

0:22.1

what he wish he had have done differently or advice he might have to an agnostic who is looking

0:27.1

into Christianity. So welcome. It's great to have you. My name's Matt Frad, if you're just

0:37.4

joining us.

0:37.9

I grew up in a Catholic family, in that my mother was Catholic.

0:42.7

My dad wasn't until later on.

0:45.2

And so my mum, every Sunday, would drag me and my brother and sister to Holy Mass.

0:50.6

And the context for this was usually, or at least the memory I have, is I had just spent the night at

0:57.1

somebody's house, friends. And then it was Sunday morning and we were in our sleeping bags,

1:02.4

eating fruit loops and watching cartoons. My mom would come to the door. Come on, Matt, we're off to

1:08.9

Mass. Now, can I just say, God bless my mother,

1:17.0

beautiful woman, and God bless her for loving me enough to drag me to church even when I didn't want to go, but I did not want to go. And I remember we'd go to Mass, and I sat there looking

1:22.6

around at what I thought, now maybe I was wrong, but I just looked at people who seemed very disinterested.

1:29.4

I remember thinking, if they don't want to be here and I don't want to be here and the priest

1:33.1

doesn't want to be here, could we just like not be here? Because I would much rather watch

1:37.8

cartoons. Now, as I got a little older, I had a lot of questions that I don't think was

1:43.1

sufficiently answered. Now, it could have been that I was too

1:47.3

proud to hear them, but I would have questions like if God exists, why do bad things happen to good people?

1:55.6

Or how do we know where right and the Mormons are wrong or the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Hindus?

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