Today, I am thrilled because Dr. Arthur Brooks is joining us again.

He is a Harvard professor, a best-selling author.

The list goes on and on.

And today he's here to talk through the psychology of money.

So I cannot wait for you guys to hear our conversation.

So here it is. Thanks for

being back on. Hi, Rachel. Nice to see you. So appreciate it. Me too. You were such a hit last time.

Thanks. I'm glad. I love your show. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So when it comes to money,

I feel like there's these like cliches people, high level kind of believe. Either more money will make me happy and or you hear

money will never make you happy, right? And so you kind of hear these extremes. From your experience,

where do you land on the scale, on the spectrum of what does money do with our happiness?

Yeah. So one of the interesting questions is why we all kind of know that money doesn't buy happiness,

but we always think that maybe we're different.

Yes, yes.

I could just have to know.

Yeah, I'm an evolutionary social psychologist, so, and social scientists.

So what I'm really interested in is the basis of our misbeliefs.

And they almost all come from the placeistocene era when the human brain

was fully developed in a different time and place. So human beings lived in bands of 30 to 50

individuals until only about 10,000 years ago. And the prerogatives that you had, the imperatives that you

had were to survive and pass on your genes. And so all of these impulses that you have are the imperatives that you had, were to survive and pass on your genes.

And so all of these impulses that you have are to do things that will help you survive and pass on your genes, like get mates, get food, et cetera. And we think that if we give into those things,

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