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and I'm crying, and I cannot hear what spirit wants me to know.

But what if these nervous systems are by design,

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This is the reason we do mediumship.

Hey, spirit, what don't I know right now and then stop and listen? Hi, I'm Iambialic and I'm Jonathan Cohen and welcome to our breakdown. Today we're going to be breaking down in a very rigorous way way it means to be in touch with what some call Spirit and we're going to be talking about some of the Technicalities of how we know if we're working on our own independent imagination or if something is actually Guiding us. Is there a way to definitively tell? Guess what the answer yes. Today we're happy to welcome back Suzanne Geesman. She's a spiritual teacher, a best-selling author, an award-winning documentarian, and she's a former Navy commander. She has a master's degree in national security affairs. She was a commanding officer and aide to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff. She was at the Pentagon on 9-11 and ended up losing her stepdaughter in a tragic accident. And this opened up an entirely new way of her functioning in the world and being in touch with messages that come from a different realm than the one she had been operating in her entire life.

This episode dives into what is the one main thing that is blocking our spiritual connection? What does it feel like, look like when we connect with spirit? What is the type of guidance that we can get Suzanne also dives deep into how psychics can and can't find missing people help with tragedies and communicate messages from loved ones who have passed. We're also going to discuss her upcoming book, Always Connected, How to Find Comfort Clarity and Direction from the Spirit Within. We're so happy to welcome back to the breakdown, Suzanne Geesman. Break it down. Oh my gosh, it's so good to be back. When we spoke to you, Suzanne, you know, we were at the very kind of beginnings of, you know, an opening that Jonathan and I have had here on the podcast. And we're so excited to get to speak with you now that we have a lot more questions and also a lot more experience, I guess, under our belt. But you really were one of the first people to kind of open us up to a whole different way of thinking. Yeah, I remember the vibe felt so different to me because you both came with this scientific background and I felt like I was being grilled. It was, you were intense. And so my answers matched you.

And it was like this.

And I kept checking in with my team. It was actually kind of fun, but it was like, whoa. Well, we really loved it. And in particular, I got so much out of your book. And I get so much out of your app. And your new book always connected is something we're going to get into. But first, I wonder if you can sort of address,

you've had some health challenges recently.

And I wonder if you can sort of address, you've had some health challenges recently. And I wonder if you can both share with us what's going on and also share some of what you feel your connection with spirit with something greater than you has helped you kind of take on these challenges. Oh, unbelievable. The connection with spirit and the difference it makes. As I get older, I've noticed more lines and such and just, you know, normal ego sent me to a dermatologist who specializes in fine lines and wrinkles and she's looking at me. She says, you know, we like to make you look better, but first and foremost, I'm an MD and she said, I think that this is cancer on your face right here. And I said, really? And she said, yeah, we do mind if I biopsy it here and now. And right off, I noticed how my training and knowing that were more than these stories kicked in, because I went right to the phrase that I teach everybody. Isn't that interesting? And I didn't even, I never cried and never wavered. I never said, oh my god, then she started showing me pictures of what was going to happen because she said, I'm 99% sure this is cancer. Before I forget, it was just this little white bump. It was, I said, but I thought all cancer was black and funny shape. She said, no, basal cell, which happily is the most least invasive, most positive outcome. She said it often just looks like these little bumps. She showed me pictures and I said, oh my god, that is it. But when she showed me the pictures of the surgery, it, they literally six days ago took a dime size hole out of my face right here. And then they cut up here and all the way down to here and pulled it all together. So I have a little bandage over it. But throughout it all, I just trusted the human people working on me and the spirit would help me through it. And it was really swollen and bruised just for a few days afterwards. But now I just have a little bandage on there. So I just feel it was a god thing that I was sent to this wonderful doctor who was really good at now fixing it afterwards. But also to help me to say to everybody, you really need to get checked regularly because I've had this thing for years. I've had facials and as the titions messing around there and saying, oh, you have some white heads. It wasn't white heads. It was cancer. Well, we are glad that you caught it and it sounds like caught it before it progressed and we wish you obviously good healing. Obviously, sometimes people have health concerns. And in many cases, things don't always go our way, right? And I wonder if you can talk about what is a relationship with spirit that can kind of handle when things go well and also when things don't? Oh, it's this knowing that comes from establishing a conscious connection with a higher reality, even if you never see these beings that help us. I never even knew they were there for most of my life. But once I sat silently every day in attempts to connect with my stepdaughter who had died 20 years ago and realize that We are supported by beings who are loving and will prove their presence to you over and over if you ask and if you play with them It changed everything. I've had moments where I didn't cry out of fear or why is this happening to me But the I've become very emotional this past week with this feeling of being uplifted and supported and knowing that no matter what, everything's going to be okay. And it's like my husband got a phone call last August from the doctor and said, you have leukemia. And we just went, okay, here we go. And it wasn't here on're here on fire, as we used to say in the Navy. It was just, this is life. Life is like a roller coaster. It goes up and it goes up and down. And when you learn to flow with it and not deny what's happening, what's here, now we can tune in to guidance that is always here. It's phenomenally comforting. Talk to us a little bit about that guidance. People want to have intuition. They want to feel connected to something. And yet so often we're stuck in the materialist realm where we go get a test or we see a sign, we get rejected somehow, we get stopped in the material world and that's it. Talk to us about what is available for us and how that can support us. Well, this is the problem. We get stuck in what I call the story. It's the narrative that we take as our only state of being, the only aspect of us, our only identity, you with a name. But we realize that we are souls first and foremost, and that soul has this ongoing connection. The soul is always present, but the problem is our nervous system gets in the way. And not only had this issue with the surgery, but I've had a respiratory challenge for two weeks and have felt so disconnected from spirit. Just yesterday and today are the first days where I really feel like, oh, I'm back. It's not like they're back. Your guides don't go anywhere. But when you're your focused narrows out of necessity because you have to focus on physical challenges or pain or Issue with somebody in your life. You don't have time to expand out here and truly feel spirit So that's the challenge for most people They're caught up caught up in the day to day challenges and drama of being human and haven't perhaps had the time or taken the time to train your nervous system to slow down, to become and then set a clear intention to experience expanded states of consciousness. That's where and how we make the connection. I couldn't make that connection because I was uncomfortable and distracted. But now that things are settling down, it's just like, I get this little lip twitch where my guides really connect. I can't make it happen. But this morning it's almost like here you are and they say we didn't go anywhere here you are. I want to continue on this line of thinking for a minute because again for people who don't have that experience resetting coming back to spirit and who are just searching for it. I want to set the logical parameter that says this exists, right? Tell us a little bit about the behind the scenes structure that we all have access to, that we may not have tapped into yet, just so that we can get our logical minds around what the infrastructure is here. Okay, I like analogies a lot. So my favorite one is to picture like an aquarium that's just one aspect of this big ocean. It's like kind of a boundary within the ocean. And so on the surface, it could be a lot of waves. And as you go deeper in that ocean, this very large aquarium, the waves settle down and at the very bottom is completely still. We are all waves in that ocean, a very common spiritual analogy, but so practical because when you're in the waves, you can't feel the stillness. But when you sit and all it takes is one to three minutes a day, Jonathan, one to three minutes a day, breathing slowly and saying, I want to tap into that stillness. And you can literally picture yourself sinking down beneath the waves. You'll find out there is a stillness and it's right here because you are the stillness and those deeper layers, they're like thermal layers, right? That's where we encounter guides and help that comes in the form of guidance and insights and sensations of comfort and peace. But you really have to make the effort one to three minutes a day. I'm not talking about hours of meditation, but get in the practice of settling down, literally settling into the stillness. And in that space where there is more stillness, more information is available, more guidance

is available. If you meet a block in the material world that may not be the end of the options, you can start to navigate it. You may get a sense that, wait a second, what I'm being told isn't the full story. There may be something else here. And then you may be able to navigate the options. Is that accurate? That's it. And even greater nudges, forget the aquarium, just be the ocean.

We are the wave in the ocean because you can't separate the wave from the ocean. It's the same stuff, it's consciousness. Picture us like a pattern within the ocean. And I like to say it's like an eddy, a whirlpool. And that pattern is the pattern of all of your life experiences. But the whole ocean carries all the experiences of every being that exists or did exist. So all that guidance is accessible by coming into resonance with other patterns. A match might be asked break down is supported by by optimizers. You know, I struggled to get good quality sleep and I just assumed it was stress. But as I learned during paramanopause and menopause, your hormones shift in a way that affect your magnesium levels and low magnesium. It makes everything harder, not just sleep, focus, mood, your tolerance for stress. That's why I have added magnesium breakthrough by by optimizers to my nightly routine. It's a blend of seven different forms of magnesium designed to support relaxation and overall sleep quality. Try it, see if you wake up more rest and refreshed, you've got nothing to lose and a lot to gain. By optimizers offers a 365 day, no questions asked money back guarantee. Magnesium breakthrough is a huge breakthrough to improve hormonal balance, to help with focus, decrease brain fog, improve sleep hygiene overall, bi optimizers makes it very easy. Jonathan, what do they get when they go to bioptimizers.com slash breaker and use the code breaker. You get 15% off your entire order

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