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The Reason Roundtable

What Does It Mean To 'Run' Venezuela?

The Reason Roundtable

The Reason Roundtable

Politics, News

4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Plus: Trump’s expanding view of U.S. power abroad, Zohran Mamdani touts the “warmth of collectivism,” and Tim Walz won’t seek reelection

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0:00.0

So the United States is going to run Venezuela.

0:04.3

After this weekend's capture of Nicholas Maduro, that is what President Donald Trump says is going to happen anyway.

0:09.6

So what does it mean for America to run another country?

0:13.1

Is there any good case for taking out a corrupt socialist authoritarian like Maduro?

0:18.6

Welcome to the Reason Roundtable.

0:20.1

This is your libertarian review of news and

0:22.1

culture. I am your host, Peter Sutherman, and today I am joined by my colleagues, Catherine Maynue Ward,

0:27.6

Matt Welch, and returning special guests, Robbie Suave. Happy Monday, everybody. So over the weekend,

0:33.6

as you probably know, U.S. forces entered Venezuela, struck multiple targets from the air,

0:38.7

and the captured Venezuelan president, or the guy who calls himself president anyway.

0:42.7

This is a matter of dispute. Nicholas Maduro.

0:45.9

And now Trump says the U.S. is going to run Venezuela, quote, until such time that we can do a safe,

0:52.4

proper, and judicious transition. So far, we don't have many

0:56.0

details in what this means. So I'm just going to start with you, Matt. What do you think it means

0:59.3

that we're going to run Venezuela? I don't think that we have any idea what it means, because Donald

1:03.7

Trump, as is his want in and out of the presidency, is to say a lot of different things about the

1:09.5

very same thing.

1:12.3

So we don't know.

1:15.7

It means that we have not even done a regime change war.

1:19.5

I've been saying on this podcast for a while that he's been looking to do regime change on the cheap.

1:20.5

This is regime decapitation, not literal, but did a kidnapping and snatch and grab and

1:27.4

killed 32 Cubans, which

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