Welcome to Questions from the Closet. I'm Ben Shalatti.

And I'm Charlie Bird. Each episode, we discuss a question we commonly get asked as LGBTQ

plus Latter-day Saints.

We're not trying to answer this question, or counter-consensus, but simply sharing our

perspectives. Today's question is, what do I do if I'm hurt by something a church

leader says? Ben and I are not terribly diverse, and we share many opinions and life experiences.

For example, we both don't do cosplay.

However, there are some pretty big differences. For example, I went on Trek this summer,

which is basically Pioneer Cosplay.

I feel like there's a story you want to tell.

Yeah, I went on Trek this summer. It was great.

Which is Pioneer Cosplay. Yeah, it was really fun.

I never thought about it that way.

So we were in the Sierra Nevada's. I went with the steak in California, and we're on

like these, I don't know, like state forest roads.

Were you like a Pioneer dad?

I was not a pa. I was just one of the leaders.

Yeah. And so people were like, what do you do? We're now here, because cars would

drive by, and so I'm like, it's Pioneer Cosplay, which was fun.

Actually, I didn't go to Trek, because I went to EFY that year.

Oh, you could do both things.

I know, but I couldn't. Not me, but I think it's really weird.

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