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What could near-death experiences teach us about life, death and consciousness?

Science Weekly

The Guardian

Science

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Seeing a bright light, floating above your body, being guided by an angel. All of these are common elements of reported near-death experiences, but what’s really going on? Ian Sample meets Sam Parnia, an intensive care doctor and associate professor at NYU Grossman school of medicine in New York City who has spent his career exploring the boundary between life and death. He tells Ian how he believes these experiences can be explained and what medicine can learn from them. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/sciencepod

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0:00.0

This is the Guardian.

0:09.0

It's Halloween. It's Halloween, so if you run into a ghost or a skeleton, you probably won't bat an eyelid.

0:15.0

After all, that's what Halloween's for, confronting the blurry line between the living and the dead.

0:22.0

But for my guest today exploring that murky

0:25.6

boundary is all in a day's work. When I say traverse the threshold of death I'm

0:30.8

talking biologically. Their hearts have stopped. They've been in this

0:33.7

limbo state between life and death and then we've brought them back to life again.

0:37.6

Sam Parnia is an associate professor of the New York University Grossman School of

0:42.2

Medicine.

0:43.2

He studies the science of death and resuscitation,

0:46.2

exploring what happens to us during cardiac arrest,

0:49.3

and what we remember if we make it back.

0:51.7

They become more lucid, and their thinking becomes sharper.

0:55.3

They describe a sense of a vast hyper-consciousness with incredible lucidity.

1:01.0

Near death. Incredible lucidity. Near-death experiences might still be viewed as pseudoscience by some,

1:08.0

but for Sam, they could hold the key to a better understanding of life, death and consciousness.

1:15.0

So is it time to radically alter our definition of death?

1:20.0

And how might medicine change if we do?

1:25.0

I'm the Guardian Science Editor Ian Sample,

1:28.0

and this is Science Weekly.

1:39.0

Well, got me interested of course is the fact that we deal with life and death on a daily basis. Alongside his academic roles Sam is also an intensive care doctor, and it was this work that got him thinking about the line between life and death.

1:48.0

I came across this even as a medical student, and I was intrigued that somehow medicine and science seemed to have

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