meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Briefing Room

What are the consequences of lifting the public sector pay cap?

The Briefing Room

BBC

News, News Commentary

4.8731 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2017

⏱️ 28 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

The public sector pay cap is being scrapped after five years - what will it mean for public finances?

Prison and police officers will be the first to benefit, but unions have condemned the pay rises - which are less than inflation - as "pathetic".

But could this extra money in the pocket of public servants help recruitment and retention in the public sector?

To explore these issues David Aaronovitch is joined by expert guests including:

Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies

Dr Amy Ludlow, a prisons expert at Cambridge University

Sir Peter Fahy, former Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police

Jerry Cope, Chair of the NHS Pay Review Body.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Welcome to the briefing room with me, David Oronovich.

0:02.9

In this week's program, we're asking why the government has lifted the cap on public sector pay.

0:08.1

Please let us know what you think about this program.

0:10.5

You can do that by writing a review or rating us on iTunes or your podcast provider.

0:15.5

Do subscribe to the whole series, and if you're minded to, recommend us to your friends.

0:20.3

Or your enemies, they may need us more.

0:31.5

That's a pile of crap and it's not good enough.

0:34.9

Was the blunt reaction of the PCS union boss, Mark Sawatka,

0:38.9

to the news that the government was lifting its 1% cap on public sector pay

0:43.0

for police and prison officers in England and Wales.

0:46.9

Back in 2010, in the wake of the Great Crash,

0:50.1

a new coalition government announced the idea of the cap like this.

0:55.0

I know there are many dedicated public sector workers who work very hard and did not cause the recession,

1:00.0

but they must share the burden as we pay to clean it up.

1:04.0

Seven years on, the question we're asking this week is what will happen if the pay cap is lifted for all public sector workers,

1:12.1

and if it is, how much should it be lifted, and for who? And who pays? Step into the briefing

1:18.4

room and find out. First into the briefing room is the BBC's Ruth Alexander,

1:28.3

who looks at what's happened to public sector pay since 2010.

1:36.3

Back in 2010, riots on the streets of Athens

1:40.3

formed the backdrop to political debate in Britain.

1:43.3

Greece stands as a warning of what happens to countries that lose their credibility

1:48.7

or whose governments pretend that difficult decisions can somehow be avoided.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.