What does the EU want from Brexit?
The Briefing Room
BBC
4.8 • 731 Ratings
🗓️ 7 September 2017
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
As negotiations between the UK and the EU hit choppy waters, the Briefing Room asks what does the EU want from Brexit and what would be its bottom line?
David Aaronovitch is joined by expert guests including:
Pascal Lamy, former EU Trade Commissioner and Director General of the World Trade Organisation
Daniela Schwarzer, Head of the German Council on Foreign Relations
Jacek Rostowski, former Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister of Poland
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the briefing room with me, David Oronovich. |
| 0:03.2 | In this week's programme, we're asking what the EU and its member states want from Brexit |
| 0:08.1 | and what would be their bottom line. |
| 0:20.6 | Michel Barnier and his EU team truly do excel in being the most inflexible and arrogant bunch of people going. |
| 0:29.2 | The EU is keener on revenge than a deal. You can't bully us, Mr Barnier. |
| 0:36.8 | There is a Europe imagined by sections of the popular press |
| 0:40.4 | and some MPs as reflected in the Brexit debate in Parliament on Tuesday. |
| 0:46.2 | The UK's approach is substantially more flexible and pragmatic. |
| 0:49.6 | Are there negotiations any more convivial than the press conferences that follow them? |
| 0:58.0 | When he next sits down with Michel Barnier, could my right honourable friend draw his attention to the fact that he is in derogion of his duties under the treaty? |
| 1:07.0 | Does it follow that the European Commission demand for money with menaces is ridiculous? |
| 1:13.6 | The EU has a very simple choice to make. I hope they make it sooner. They'll probably |
| 1:17.6 | make it later. They can either trade with us with no new tariffs or barriers, because we've |
| 1:21.6 | made a very generous offer, or they can trade with us under WTA rules, which we know works |
| 1:26.6 | fine for us, |
| 1:27.5 | because that's what we do with the rest of the world. |
| 1:29.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:30.0 | Nobody's ever pretended this will be simple or easy. |
| 1:32.4 | I've always said... |
| 1:33.3 | But because this is a negotiation, |
| 1:36.0 | understanding the views and needs of Europeans is essential for understanding the future. |
| 1:42.4 | Really, the only choice that Britain has is which set menu it wants. |
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