What AI Can't Replace: The Ancient Skills That Will Save Us | Soren Gordhamer
Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais
Dr. Michael Gervais
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🗓️ 9 July 2025
⏱️ 85 minutes
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Summary
The question is not if AI will advance. It will. The real question is whether humans will advance with it?
This week on The Finding Mastery Podcast, we sit down with Soren Gordhamer — founder of Wisdom 2.0, a global movement exploring the intersection of mindfulness, purpose, and technology.
Soren’s latest book, The Essential: Discovering What Really Matters in an Age of Distraction, invites us to slow down, turn inward, and reconnect with what truly counts — even as the world speeds up around us.
In this conversation, we explore:
- How suffering and early identity struggles shaped Soren’s life
- Why achievement alone isn’t enough for true fulfillment
- How to stop performing and start being
- Why cultivating inner power is essential in the age of AI
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by technology or stuck chasing external success, this episode offers a grounded path forward — toward presence, purpose, and authentic living.
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| 0:00.0 | With AI, artificial intelligence emerging in our culture right now, there needs to be a similar |
| 0:04.4 | renaissance of spirituality or of awakening, because the artificial intelligence is going to get |
| 0:09.0 | so powerful that can either be used for good or for bad. |
| 0:13.5 | The question is not if AI will advance. It will. The real question is whether we as humans |
| 0:19.7 | will advance with it. A world where AI takes over |
| 0:23.2 | and we lose contact with humanity. We lose contact with our own feeling. That is a more dangerous world. |
| 0:28.4 | Welcome back. We're welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast where we dive into the minds of the world's |
| 0:33.4 | greatest thinkers and doers. I am your host, Dr. Michael Jervais, by trade and training, a high-performance |
| 0:38.9 | psychologist. Now, the idea behind these conversations is really simple, to sit with the |
| 0:43.9 | extraordinaries and learn, to really learn about how they work from the inside out. And in this |
| 0:50.8 | week, we're joined by someone who is an expert at doing just that. I've known and |
| 0:55.7 | respected him for a long time. My friend Soren Bordhammer. Soren is the founder of Wisdom 2.0, |
| 1:02.5 | a global event series at the intersection of wisdom and technology. I meet with a lot of the tech |
| 1:07.6 | founders and some of them are working their ass off to build build this company to sell it, to take it public. |
| 1:12.8 | I see them when they sell it. |
| 1:14.2 | And they always hoped, oh, this is a moment that I've been waiting for. |
| 1:17.1 | Finally, this desire in me get satiated and they get everything they want and they're absolutely miserable. |
| 1:22.2 | Because no shift in the external world can satiate what is unresolved in the internal world. His new book, The Essential, |
| 1:29.0 | discovering what really matters in an age of distraction, invites us to stop performing and start being. |
| 1:35.7 | Some people see the inherent beauty that they are, but they're not willing to see any of the dark. |
| 1:39.9 | And some people, all they do is they see the dark and they judge themselves. And so can we hold both |
| 1:43.8 | of those as truths? With that, let's jump right into this week's conversation with Wisdom |
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