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The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

Wendy Dio | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

Billy Corgan

Music, Arts, Performing Arts

4.6731 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In this powerful and emotional conversation, Wendy Dio joins Billy Corgan to share the brilliance of her late husband, Ronnie James Dio, from their first meeting at the Rainbow to the creation of Blackmore’s Rainbow, following Ozzy in Black Sabbath, and his breakthrough with his own band, Dio. Wendy reveals how Ronnie stayed true to his vision, refusing to chase hits, and how his humility, brilliance, and devotion to fans made him a legend. She and Billy discuss the origins of the devil horns, the making of “Holy Diver” and “Rainbow in the Dark,” and the enduring legacy Wendy continues through the Ronnie James Dio Stand Up and Shout Cancer Fund. Subscribe to the Magnificent Others YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@BillyCorganTMO?sub_confirmation=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's a hard life. It's a hard life and there's ups and downs. We, I mean, we had... You don't strike me as a shy personality. No, absolutely. No, we would knock heads like this. In fact, people would walk out the room and I was like, oh, God, you know. You met him sort of really at the precipice of snow. Right, and yeah, they kept following me around, and I was short for me. The word you hear with the musicians off is an eccentric, but they tend to be different types of It was very eccentric, Richard. Okay, right, right. But there were a lot of fun times, like we would have all kinds of things going on, especially seances. My view of him from an outside point of view, he was a true professional. He was a very much professional.

0:37.9

Totally, totally. They didn't work at home.

0:43.4

Okay. Wendy Dio, thank you so much for being here. I'm so excited to talk to you about

0:49.3

your late husband, Ronnie, such an incredible musical icon.

0:56.6

So let's start with two stories.

0:58.6

You get one story, I get one story. Okay.

1:00.5

I'm sure you've told it many times, but take me back to the night that you met Ronnie.

1:03.7

You're working at the Rainbow as a waitress.

1:05.6

I was, indeed.

1:06.6

I was over here.

1:08.0

I'd come over.

1:08.9

I didn't have a green card yet.

1:10.6

And I needed to work. So I was working at The Rainbow, also doing some movies at the time. And so I knew Richard Blackmore and I knew his wife at the time, Babsey, from England. And so you knew Richie from back? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. I knew them very well, actually. And they invited me to, they were in town, and they were invited me to go to a party with them afterwards up at Hollywood Hills. And so I said, okay, and they had recorded the first Richard Blackmore Rainbow album, but they had not toured yet.

1:45.2

Yeah.

1:46.2

So we went up there and Ronnie was following me around.

1:49.0

I was like, he was a bit short.

1:52.0

And he wasn't, nothing disrespectful, but he wasn't a young guy at that point.

1:55.0

I mean, he wasn't in his 20s.

1:57.0

I mean, he's about 30 at that.

1:59.0

30, yeah, yeah.

2:00.0

So he'd lived some life. Yeah, he'd been an elf, and... But Rainbow was really his... was coming out, as I say, of being actually in a big band. Sure. But I'm saying you met him at a unique time where it's... Oh, yeah, right. He wasn't a big star then, no. He was not a big star. You met him sort of really at the precipice of startup. Right. And yeah, and he kept following me around. He's too short for me. And anyway, we talked and everything. And then everybody was going to Denny's for breakfast because part of you, this was like, I guess some was just coming up. And we were talking and stuff. And he said, do you want to go for a right to Manabu? I said, okay, sounds good. So we went and we talked and talked and talked. And he was very interesting, a really interesting person, very, very smart. And we started chatting and stuff. And then we started dating for about two weeks. Okay.

2:51.8

And then he went on the road.

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