Hi this is Hope.

This is Karim.

Hi this is Katie from Washington DC and you're a l'anome

athlete radio. Hey everyone Matt Frazier here with episode 20 of no meat athlete radio and this is an

episode I've been excited about for a long time. My guest today is someone whose

approach to nutrition has really

turned upside down the way I think about food, especially when it comes to

eating for longevity and for weight loss. And while weight loss isn't something

I'm personally interested in, like for my own sake,

I do get tons and tons of questions about it, and this man has some answers.

My guest today is Ray Cronyce, who you may have heard about before without realizing it.

If you've read Tim Ferris' for our body, you might remember the part in the beginning about the guy who had heard that Michael Phelps was eating 12,000 calories a day

and figured out based on the amount of work that Michael Phelps

claimed to be doing in the pool, something didn't add up.

That he was taking in far too many calories.

He should be adding weight if we just

did the typical calories and calories out stuff you know exercise and nutrition

well Ray discovered of course was that the cold temperature of the pool and we'll talk about this in

the interview that that you know Michael Phelps's body had to heat itself so that

itself was burning up a lot of these calories

which led him to go down the road of using cold

you know all kinds of different cold methods for weight loss

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