Welcome to Our Henhouse.

This is Jasmine Singer.

And this is Marianne Sullivan.

And this week, Marianne will be speaking with philosopher and author Bob Fisher about his work,

which is very much focused on wedding academic work about

animals to real world policy change. They will also be discussing his recent book,

Animal Ethics, a Contemporary Introduction, and Weighing Animal Welfare, comparing well-being across species.

And Bob is a really cool, smart guy.

We were recently able to have dinner with him.

And he takes these complex theories and discusses them in a way that I think are accessible

to anyone.

I mean, some of the stuff he talks about, like that I think are accessible to anyone.

I mean, some of the stuff he talks about, like, I don't understand it all.

I mean, not in the interview, but in this real life.

But this book, Animal Ethics, a contemporary introduction,

it really gets into the issues in a very straightforward, very understandable way. It's a great book. I think it's probably geared toward undergraduates, taking maybe an animal ethics course or whatever. He really has that

gift, which far too few philosophers, philosophy. And I always feel funny when I call people

philosophers, it sounds like, it just sounds like I think they're Aristotle or something. They're very robs. I don't know. It's just such a weird term. So many people in academia generally just talking a lot of jargon and make it more complicated than it needs to be. And I really think he did a good job of not doing that. So, yeah, it's been fun to get to know him at our dinner recently.

And I really love this interview.

Here's a heads up.

We don't agree about everything.

Ooh, exciting.

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