"We Stand with Free People" — U.K. Security & Strategy with Tom Tugendhat

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🗓️ 17 February 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Member of U.K. Parliament and military veteran Tom Tugendhat was recently in Washington and was kind enough to join Ryan for a short but weighty conversation. Tugendhat chaired the Foreign Affairs Select Committee between 2017 and 2022 and then served in the previous government as minister of state for security. They discussed his time in government as well as the landscape of threats, including (not surprisingly) Russia — and how the war might best end — as well as China, informed by his recent trip to Taiwan. Please note this episode was recorded before the Munich Security Conference.

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0:00.0	You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense, and Foreign Affairs.
0:14.0	My name's Ryan Evans.
0:15.5	In this episode, I sat down with my friend Tom Tuganhat, a member of Parliament in the UK.
0:19.7	He was the security minister in the last
0:21.9	conservative government. We had a great conversation. Tom, thanks for much for rejoining us on the show.
0:28.6	Ryan, it's a pleasure to be back. So you're here visiting Washington. What are you doing here in
0:32.9	town? Well, look, I'm in town because there's a lot going on at the moment. There's a lot of change. I was asked speaker to dinner last night, which I did. And I was also here to say goodbye to a very, very dear friend of mine Karen Pierce, who has stepped down as ambassador here in the United States.
0:48.2	And we await the arrival of Peter, the Lord Mandelson.
0:51.8	She was such a great presence here in Washington. She did such a
0:54.4	terrific job. Yeah, she did an amazing job here, but she's done amazing jobs for the British
0:58.3	people in various different countries, actually. She was our ambassador in Afghanistan,
1:02.2	and she led the Afghan unit in the foreign office. She did a huge amount of really important work
1:06.8	there, and I'm sure she will be contributing further in different ways that I don't
1:10.9	yet know about.
1:11.8	That's great to hear.
1:12.7	So you were in government before the last elections.
1:15.6	Tell us about the job that you, because there's not an equivalent in our system here in the
1:19.2	US of that.
1:20.1	There is an I was security minister, and it's an odd job because you work in the home office,
1:23.6	so you're under the home secretary, but you're not in some ways because you have a different line, as it were, and you work directly to the Prime Minister on some things,
1:31.0	and you work across other government departments with others.
1:33.3	So it's an odd position, but it means that you're overseeing the budget of the intelligence
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