Transforming NATO for the Future Fight

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🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Will NATO be able to innovate and adapt before a crisis? Adm. Pierre Vandier popped into War on the Rocks HQ for a most interesting chat about this very question. He serves as Supreme Allied Commander Transformation. A senior leader in the French navy and career fighter pilot, Vandier is responsible for the transformation of NATO's military structures, forces, capabilities, and doctrines. With Ukraine struggling against Russia, technology advancing at a thunderous pace, and the geopolitical landscape shifting, Vandier offers some fascinating, quotable insights.

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0:00.0	You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense, and Foreign Affairs.
0:14.2	My name's Ryan Evans. In this episode, I sat down with Admiral Pierre Vendier of the French Navy.
0:20.2	He is the Supreme Allied Commander of
0:22.2	Transformation at NATO. Hope you enjoy the conversation. Let's start at the beginning. Why did you
0:29.6	join the Navy? So, in fact, I was trained in natural science, and I always wanted to travel and to do
0:35.7	something about my country. And so I was dreaming about making that happen.
0:40.4	I was not on the right path to make that.
0:43.2	And so a very lucky guy, I found a way.
0:46.2	And so I went to a Ecole Preparatoir,
0:49.0	which is something that prepares you to enter an engineer school.
0:52.1	They did it well and entered the Navy.
0:54.5	So I'm very happy to have done that.
0:56.4	And what was your career field in the Navy?
0:58.0	Or is your career field, I mean?
0:59.7	In fact, on our training course,
1:02.0	we see Jan Dark, where we make a world tour,
1:04.9	I discovered aviation.
1:06.4	I didn't know about aviation.
1:07.7	And so one of my boss on the ship told me a lot about this. I say,
1:12.4	why not try it? And so I decided to go on naval aviation, be a fighter pilot on carriers,
1:18.7	which is quite a difficult path. On the beginning, you sweat quite a lot. So I met it, and my first
1:24.2	engagements were during the Bosian War, 1994,
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