This episode for me is about...

and this is uncomfortable for me to say, but it is a call to stop knowingly or perhaps

unknowingly being racist.

It's a call to change, it's a call to fix a problem, it's a radical call to say,

yeah, I've been ignoring this because it's really uncomfortable, because it didn't affect me.

It's more than just saying, I'm going to do better and I think that's a start.

And I know that's what I've started by saying is I need to do better.

And I started by saying that and then being defensive, that some of my black friends or

black followers might have responded back to me and anger like, oh now you get it.

Where have you been? Wake up!

And earlier this week I didn't understand that rage, like I'm admitting that I'm flawed,

I'm admitting that there's things I've overlooked, I'm admitting that this has been so big

and so powerful and so emotional and it's gone on for so many days now.

That it even hurts for me to say so many days when black indigenous people of color

have been experiencing this for 400 years.

And so even to say that this is an awakening feels offensive.

And for it to feel offensive that someone saying, I'm sorry, I understand I want to do better,

that can feel like an attack.

And so here we are in this place where we are miles and miles apart when I don't know what to say.

Except I'm sorry and this is a start and it starts with me.

And not everyone has people as brave as the person who I'm going to speak with today.

This is my friend Ann Stevenson.

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