“We Felt Abandoned”: Therapists Process the End of SOP

The Angry Therapist Podcast

John Kim

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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This episode brings together members of John Kim’s Single on Purpose coaching team for an unfiltered, deeply human conversation about what happened when the SOP community was suddenly closed. These are therapists, coaches, and facilitators — doing therapy on each other — exploring the activation, the grief, the meaning, and the unexpected wounds that surfaced. You’ll hear them talk about: What SOP meant to them personally and professionally The abrupt ending and why it hit so hard Abandonment wounds, leadership, and rupture-repair The magic of the community they built together Why therapists are human, vulnerable, and messy too What they’re taking with them into the next chapter Whether you were part of SOP, or you’re experiencing your own ending, transition, or rupture — this conversation will land. CONNECT WITH THE COACHES: Sean Cardinalli Instagram: @seancardinalli https://www.instagram.com/seancardinalli/ Medium: https://seancardinalli.medium.com/ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/1388439 Linktree: https://campsite.to/seancardinalli Mikey Brackett Instagram: @mikey.brackett Email: mikeybrackett@me.com Therapy website: https://mikeybtherapy.com Coaching website: https://mikeybrackett.com Madeleine Downey IG (info/coaching/counselling): @madeleinedowney Substack: https://madeleinedowney.substack.com (It’s Giving Alchemy) Shadow Work Group – Inner Compass Collective: https://inner-compass-collective.circle.so/ Email: Madeleine@vanessabennett.com Amy Brown Website: AmyBrown.Online IG: CoachingWithAmyBrown Email: Amy@MINDmgt.com Taune Lyons Taunelyons.com - therapy & somatic experiencing Comingtooursenses.substack.com Coming to our senses podcast - Spotify & apple IG: Taunelyons Inner compass academy for classes on depth and somatic inner parenting Taune@taunelyons.com If you’re ready for deeper work, the Secure Self course is available here. https://theangrytherapist.thrivecart.com/secure-self-bundle/ 📘 Read John’s new book in progress Sh*t Your Therapist Would Never Tell You on John’s SubStack ⁠HERE⁠ Order John's new book, Break Up. On Purpose,⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow John on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about John⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:23.6	HelloVet.
0:26.2	And so then I literally just sitting back one day or maybe talking with summer, my partner, and I was like,
0:33.1	oh my God, this feels like my anger to my dad.
0:36.5	Holy shit.
0:55.6	Like it came out of nowhere. I was like, because my dad abandoned me at birth. And I mean, I don't mean to get too goddamn deep and Freudian about it. I mean, there's also just the more. You deep. No, we, that's what we do here. That's what we do here, Sean. You got to say, I mean to get deep.
0:58.2	Oh, that's true. That's fair. I mean to get deep, yes.
1:06.5	I'm John Kim, a licensed therapist who used to be a miserable fuck before going on a hero's journey and turning expired relationships into revelations. I use my story to help others come with you instead of at you,
1:14.4	unrehearsed on purpose,
1:16.3	because self-help doesn't have to be polished or complicated.
1:19.9	Just honest.
1:24.8	Hey, Tani.
1:29.2	Save by the bell. Stayed by the bell.
1:30.2	Come in and save me from the questions.
1:32.0	Tani, did you color your hair?
1:33.9	No, I mean, just the norm.
1:36.7	The norm, yeah.
1:37.5	It looks great.
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