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It's a peculiar place, a rugby ground, maybe 30, 40 minutes after the final whistle because it's a combination of a music venue people are derigging left right and centre

You have loads of kids generally kids of players who are just milling around kicking a rugby ball about football

and then there's also the sense of deflation contrasting with the emotion of the winning team.

It's so fascinating when you can

when you can hear the sing songs from the winning team and then the

losing sidewalk at the we are at Rodney Parade the Dragons Dragons have just lost the lions.

Philip Taty, hello?

Hello?

Lauren Jenkins, hello.

And it is always more deflating when the home team, not necessarily the Welsh team,

but the home team Lewis.

If you contrast the environment today to

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