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Commune with Jeff Krasno

Waking Up with Sam Harris: Mindfulness, Non-Duality, and the Illusion of the Self

Commune with Jeff Krasno

Commune Media

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.5673 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

How do you regulate your nervous system in a world built to hijack it? In this episode, Jeff sits down with Sam Harris, neuroscientist, author, and creator of the Waking Up meditation app, for part two of a two-part conversation. After diagnosing the political chaos in part one, they pivot to the practice of meeting it with clarity, exploring mindfulness, non-duality, and what's prior to thought. They discuss: Why almost no one can hold attention for 30 seconds The real root of psychological suffering Dualistic vs. non-dualistic meditation practice Psychedelics and meditation compared The social construction of the self, from childhood to Sartre The hard problem of consciousness and the mystery of awareness If you want to learn Sam’s approach to staying engaged with the world without losing your mind to it, go to https://onecommune.com/sam to get 30 days of his Waking Up app for free. This episode was made possible by: Vivobarefoot: Try Vivobarefoot risk-free with a 100-day return guarantee, and get 15% off your order at ⁠vivobarefoot.com/commune⁠. Stemregen: Get 20% off your first order at stemregen.co/commune with the code COMMUNEPOD LMNT: Get a free 8-count Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular drink mix flavors with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/commune. Stripes: Visit stripesbeauty.com and use the code COMMUNE20 for 20% off our entire product line. Sunlighten: Visit sunlighten.com/commune Up to 2,100 off saunas and $50 off Red Light Products with code “COMMUNE”

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0:00.0

Thought is incessant. Every morning, you just wake up and you're just chased out of bed by your thoughts,

0:04.4

and you're just thinking, thinking, thinking every moment of the day. If you're in some kind of psychological pain,

0:10.1

that is a story of thinking without knowing that you're thinking. Sam Harris, neuroscientist, philosopher,

0:17.8

and best-selling author. He divides his genius between two interwoven missions,

0:24.0

bringing reason to our culture wars on making sense and bringing equipoise to our minds through the

0:30.6

waking up app. This week in part two, we explore his waking up brain, diving into the mechanics of non-duality, the illusion of the

0:39.9

self, and how to find true equanimity in an age of anxiety.

0:44.9

Mindfulness is the thing that allows you to pay enough attention so that you can see

0:49.1

thoughts for what they are. There is no self in the center of it. You start to really notice that we have this

0:56.4

stereophonic kind of polyphonic universe out here. Sort of ethereal soup. Every feeling of anger

1:04.4

you have ever felt arose and passed away and it's not here anymore. It's just like the

1:08.2

chirp of a bird. If you want to directly experience Sam's approach to meditation and mindfulness,

1:13.7

go to one commune.com forward slash Sam to get the first seven days of his introductory

1:20.9

course for free.

1:22.8

Welcome to Commune.

1:25.9

In terms of being able to confront or manage one's own, or to confront the chaos of the

1:35.0

world and really manage one's own nervous system, sort of to return to the notion of mindfulness

1:43.3

for a moment.

1:47.9

You know, what is the way in the door there?

1:53.9

And I guess, you know, I spent years working torchbearing for my wife to sort of demystify yoga, right?

1:57.8

Big tent for yoga.

1:59.4

We want to get a lot of people in downward dog because you know if

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