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Hi, this is Hope. This is Farine. Hi, this is Katie from Washington DC and you're

listening to me at The Athlete Radio.

Matt, you're a you're a you're a gamer guy.

I don't know if you could call me a gamer guy, but I have dabbled just a little bit in my adult

years. We have we spent several minutes over the course of this podcast talking about talking about your

what is it? Nintendo Switch?

Nintendo Switch and then we got an Xbox eventually.

Oh, we get an Xbox. The Nintendo Switch is kind of a entry level sort of sort of amateur.

It's kind of it's a toy whereas the Xbox is a serious game.

Wow, no idea. So all right, so so you you've dabbled with some games. I know you've spent

some dabbled. Yes. No, that's I mean, I've only played a one game with any seriousness and

everything else I've literally just dabbled. Okay, all right. Well, so have you entered the realm

of Web 3 metaverse? No, you haven't. I'm fascinated by these things. I think I think like

the esports idea how that has become in many many ways as big as real sports.

And and if you doubt that Google some of the stats on it because it's this whole world going on

that you don't really see if you're not part of it. So I think it's such an interesting thing.

And similarly with with the idea of a metaverse, I think that's really cool too and probably a big

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