Feeling the challenge in order to find the ease, where it's like, oh, it's really challenging right now to trust that if I don't have the energy to do something, it's just not the time for it to be done.

But I make a choice and I'm like, okay, not going to do this right now.

And then a day or a few days or a week later, all of a sudden, I just have the energy to do

and it gets done effortlessly. Hello, hello, welcome back. How are you? I hope you're cozy wherever you are. Maybe you're on a walk.

Are you driving? Are you making dinner? Are you folding laundry? Perhaps you're just sitting and

listening and not multitasking. Who knows? I don't know how you consume your podcasts. I'm always multitasking,

but I would actually love to know where you're listening. Maybe take a selfie or let me know

on the internet in some way, perhaps Instagram. Let it out has its own Instagram. Let it out

with three T's.

Wherever you are, I'm so happy you're here.

If it's your first time, welcome.

I'm Katie.

This is my podcast.

This week is a conversation with Victoria Jane about human design and what's been coming up for us.

We kick it off with this goofy story of miscommunication that

you'll hear in a second. But if you are new to human design, what is human design? We get into it

a little bit in this episode, but basically it's a system of personality typing like Myers-Briggs

or Strings finder, the anagram, or astrology.

And like astrology, it uses your birth time and place to create your human design type and

chart.

And it's a pretty intricate system that we get into the background of a little bit in this

episode, but not too much, because

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