From the historic campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, where the good, the true, and the beautiful are taught, nurtured, and honored, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

You can see a certain urgency in their efforts.

They're letting in numbers we've never seen before.

In the New York Times, there was an article suggesting that people should be able to vote we're not citizens.

So they're trying to rush to change,

not just the numbers, but the structure. This is your host, Scott Bertram, and that's Victor

Davis Hansen, our first guest on today's program. Dr. Hanson is Wayne Marsha Busk, distinguished fellow

in history at Hillsdale College. He is senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford,

and also author of Mexifonia, a book released nearly 20 years ago,

and now re-released this year with a brand new prologue.

Dr. Hansen, thanks so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me.

Mexicoonia is a book that's now 20 years old.

Part history, part political analysis, part memoir as well about your time in California

and working your farm out there.

How do you look at Mexico now 20 years since initial publication?

Well, I wish its predictions or its warnings had not been correct,

but when I wrote the initial text in 2002 for City Journal,

it was an article in the book version in 2003.

That seems 18, 19 years later is almost utopian.

I'm in the same place, so I haven't changed. The farm hasn't changed. But the social,

cultural, political, economic dislocations from massive illegal immigration have radically changed,

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