VHEADLINE: DeepSeek AI: Chinese LLM Performance and Security Flaws Revealed Amid Semiconductor Export Circumvention GUEST NAME: Jack Burnham SUMMARY: John Batchelor speaks with Jack Burnham about competition in Large Language Models between the US and Chi

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VHEADLINE: DeepSeek AI: Chinese LLM Performance and Security Flaws Revealed Amid Semiconductor Export Circumvention GUEST NAME: Jack Burnham SUMMARY: John Batchelor speaks with Jack Burnham about competition in Large Language Models between the US and China's DeepSeek. A NIST study found US models superior in software engineering, though DeepSeek showed parity in scientific questions. Critically, DeepSeek models exhibited significant security flaws. China attempts to circumvent US export controls on GPUs by smuggling and using cloud computing centers in Southeast Asia. Additionally, China aims to dominate global telecommunications through control of supply chains and legal mechanisms granting the CCP access to firm data.E

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0:00.0	This is CBS Eye on the World.
0:08.5	Here's John Batchelor.
0:11.5	I welcome my colleague Jack Burnham.
0:14.5	He is the research analyst at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,
0:18.9	who watches the claims of the PRC for superiority or
0:22.3	about to be superior in terms of technology, communications. In fact, all manner of competition
0:28.1	as far as the PRC sees it. But the big one, the Super Bowl of competition right now, is not the
0:35.6	moon, not Mars, certainly not armaments. It's Deep Seek.
0:41.0	Jack, a very good evening to you. You don't have to do more than just mention deep seek in one of
0:45.6	your columns that I'm right there. We've got the United States appearing to be ahead with a multiple
0:52.9	choice of companies you want to play with. I have
0:56.6	Grock here with ARA, that's Musk. I have Gemini there. I believe that's Google. I have
1:03.7	anthropic over there all by itself, although it's a spin-off of open-chat GPT. And I have another Google outfit in my computer called Notebook L.M.
1:16.6	They're all strengths and weaknesses in all directions.
1:20.3	They're driven, however, by a mastery of graphic processing units, GPUs, including the million GPU data center under construction
1:33.2	in Memphis, Tennessee by Musk, I believe he calls the Colossus 2. All of that is an infrastructure
1:39.7	and a network and a competition that is a credit to capitalism.
1:47.4	Deep Seek, however, is the Chinese answer.
1:48.9	What is the answer?
1:49.9	What is Deep Seek?
1:52.2	Why are we paying so much attention to it?
1:53.2	Good evening to you, Jack.
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