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blue sky and instagram it is sunday so it is time for another character studies episode

if you're new to the show character studies episodes feature me in conversation with a civilian, an ordinary human being

from somewhere who does something and we just talk. This podcast has its origins as a literary

interview show and that is still part of what I do. But character studies allow me to get a lot of

different perspectives and to hear a lot of different voices. And the series started earlier this

year, and today we're going to do another one. And my guest is a woman named Vanessa. She is of

unspecified age, and she is a vegan activist from

Los Angeles. We had a great talk, super fascinating. And you're going to hear that in just a moment.

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Today's episode is brought to you by Mulholland Books, publisher of a new novel by J. Robert Lennon called Buzzkill. Buzzkill is the

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