Quick one. My team tells me we actually have very few reviews relative to the weekly audience

numbers. This is no doubt my fault, as I've always felt a little weird about asking you

to do something for me. But clearly, if you don't ask, you don't get. So if you're enjoying

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Very few stories are legitimately overnight success. They just aren't. They may look like

it, but most of the time there's been years of working really hard. It took every learned

experience, every mistake, every show they've ever done to make me prepared enough to do

festival hall or to do roundhouse. Roundhouse was legitimately pro-the-best show of

a playmaker. It was taken every single experience to be remotely prepared for that. I mean,

there was nights that were just, you couldn't even, like, nights where I'd be playing and

start raining and I was like, kind of undercover, not undercover nightages being a madman

would just keep playing. I was like, no, I'm not going to start playing for this weather,

we'll keep playing, keep playing. I'm talking one night, people ran out of the cafe and started

dancing in the rain. You think I'm joking, like it's a scene from a movie and you had nights

where there'd be like a hundred people in the car park outside of cafe dancing and going

absolutely wild and singing at the top of their lungs. That's Ziggy Elbors. And this is

the Proof Podcast.

Howdy friends, what's going on? I hope you've been well. Here we are again, another week,

another episode. For new listeners, my name is Simon Hill on the host of the Planet Proof

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