US Hockey, Ben Sasse, and Jesse Jackson: How We Celebrate, Die, and Remember
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
The U.S. hockey team wins gold, but the celebration sparked bigger questions. Esau, Malcolm, and Mike discuss if America become the bully to the rest of the world? Also, Ben Sasse's public reflections on his terminal cancer diagnosis bring a different kind of clarity about faith, family, and what actually matters when time runs short. Then, with the passing of Jesse Jackson, we consider how to remember leaders who shaped history by honoring real progress without pretending perfection.
0:00 - Theme Song
2:10 - Parking Spot
5:36 - Canada Vs US Hockey
9:07 - Did David Become Goliath?
17:21 - Ben Sass and Facing Mortality
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25:44 - What's Worth Our Time?
35:42 - Jesse Jackson
50:34 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, welcome to the Esau-Maccali podcast. |
| 0:09.0 | I'm your host, Issaa Macaulay. |
| 0:10.6 | This week we're joined by Malcolm Foley. |
| 0:13.0 | Is that like a black history vest that you got going on there? |
| 0:15.7 | I like that. |
| 0:16.2 | Look, man, hey, my mom has made a few vests for me. |
| 0:19.7 | Oh. |
| 0:20.1 | Which are African mudcloth. |
| 0:21.5 | This one is just one of African print. Wait, wait, mom's, your mom's makes vest? She does. Mama Foley? Why is it, why is it, Mama Foley sent me something? She makes shoes. She makes kicks too. Wow. Wow. Okay, then. I was on it. |
| 0:35.5 | Mama Foley, I want, |
| 0:36.5 | Mama Foley, I want some swag. |
| 0:39.2 | I guess you should also, |
| 0:40.0 | you get nothing, |
| 0:40.6 | this is Black History Month. You don't even ask for it. Don't even ask for it, both. Don't even ask for it. Just say Happy Black History Month, then I can introduce you. You saw this whole month I've been trying to think of a gift I could give you from Black History Month then. But man, that line is, it's just a hard balancing act. And I finally came up with something this morning and I didn't have time to execute on it. Okay. But it was simply going to be a framed picture of you and me together. Oh, for Black. St. Happy Black History Month. So just imagine that people at home. I didn't quite have time to make it happen. |
| 1:12.0 | Maybe next year. |
| 1:12.9 | I thought that you could maybe post like on your Instagram, |
| 1:15.9 | like a picture me and you with Ebony and Ivory playing in the background. |
| 1:20.1 | I don't know if I'm allowed to do that. |
| 1:22.1 | Probably not. |
| 1:23.7 | That'll be your next Instagram post. |
| 1:25.1 | That's your thing. |
| 1:26.6 | So speaking of producer Mike getting excited about himself, he's gone from, it used to be like, oh, what's going to be in Mike's corner? You know, and now he's pitching opens. He's coming in, for y'all who know the group chat, he's coming into the group chat, and now he has opens. He wants to talk about what we, he wants to decide how we open the show. And so producer Mike, producer Mike, producer. Can I talk? I mean, it just feels like literally my job as a producer to throw out topic ideas. Like literally my job. But you're getting more adamant as time goes on. Like this is the best idea. I put this in our slack with the line, potential opener. I felt like it was in bold. Anyways, what do you want to talk about since you want to open the show? What do you want? Here is. I saw an article in New York Times, do you back into a parking spot or back out? Okay. And it was about this recent trend that has grown in the last few years of more and more people backing in to parking spots. |
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