Making Sense of the Iran War
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 March 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
The United States and Israel have launched strikes against Iran and the world is trying to figure out what happens next. Justin Giboney joins the show to help unpack the politics, the constitutional questions, and the potential fallout both overseas and at home. Also, Esau looks at how America's relationship with Israel shaped the conflict and why some Christians see events like this through the lens of biblical prophecy. Plus: we give marriage advice to Tom Holland and Zendaya.
0:00 - Theme Song
1:02 - Does Justin Know Zendaya?
6:40 - At War with Iran
11:47 - Are We Liberating Iran?
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21:03 - Israel's Influence on Trump
26:19 - Prophecy ad Abraham's Sin
31:20 - Trump's Broken Promises
42:42 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast, the We're at War edition. |
| 0:11.4 | Apparently, this is the first episode that I think that we've recorded while we're in |
| 0:14.9 | an official war. |
| 0:15.7 | What is a war, Esau? |
| 0:17.4 | I mean, we're definitely at war. |
| 0:20.1 | We're in a serious one that I think they might get more complicated as time goes on. |
| 0:24.0 | No. |
| 0:24.8 | But today, today we're joined by Justin Gibney, president and founded the end campaign. |
| 0:30.2 | Thank you for coming on, Justin. |
| 0:33.1 | It's always my pleasure. |
| 0:34.3 | It's providential to have Justin's here because like he's like |
| 0:37.6 | the person who I think is one of the most sober minded when it comes to politics. Like when we do ridiculous stuff, we know Justin, you know, it's not, but when we're doing real politics, this is when Justin kind of shine. I have waited to form my opinion about any of this until I hear from Justin. Yeah, and we also joined here by producer Mike. Yeah, that's me. Yeah. And so, |
| 0:56.2 | since you're here and you're an expert on foreign politics and American policies and all of the other good stuff, we thought we would open this up with the real question that people want to know. And so here's the question. There's a rumor going around on the internet, Justin, that Tom Holland and Zendaya. |
| 1:12.6 | Zendaya are married. |
| 1:15.6 | Do you know who those two people are? |
| 1:17.6 | It's the first question. |
| 1:19.6 | No clue. |
| 1:20.6 | Yes. |
| 1:21.6 | Are you serious? |
| 1:23.6 | Are you serious? |
| 1:25.6 | I knew it. |
| 1:26.6 | I knew it. You don't know anything about these two people. Don't look them up. Don't cheat. Okay. Wait, wait. You have to try to- I'm here. He's like, why would I bother? I'm flat-footed. Okay, okay. Tom Holland is... Let it be known right before we came down here with Justin. Yeah. ask me, well, surely Justin will know who these people are. Yeah, are. These people are super famous. And I said, no, I don't think so. So Tom Holland is Spider-Man, like the young guy who plays Spider-Man. And the woman who, the young lady who plays Mary Jane, it's his girlfriend. And they've been dating during all of this time. And it's been like the cutest public, you know, couple in Hollywood history. Because then they started dating and they were like 17, 18 years old. I remember the old they were. And they were mega famous and they've been dating. And they were in the show. They think they've been in other movies together besides that. They've been in a couple of movies, right? How does this impact my life as a black man from Atlanta, Georgia? It doesn't. It doesn't. I mean, I might mention it's in day as black, but that's going to impact. And so here's the thing, though. I figured you wouldn't know that. But I thought anyway. Why did you figure, let's dig because people might not know the history between, because I feel a little bit of tack, but I'm going to play with it. Why did y'all think I wouldn't know that? These are two of the biggest movie stars right now. I don't think you can get mad at us for feeling. So I didn't, I didn't realize. So yeah, let me explain it. I didn't realize. I thought that me and Justin have similar, like me and Justin texts all of the time. |
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