Lent After Loss: What Christian Hope Really Looks Like
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
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🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Ash Wednesday forces us to acknowledge that some day we will die. For some, that truth is abstract. For others, it is painfully personal. Esau and Mike are joined by Hannah Miller King, author of Feasting on Hope: How God Sets a Table in the Wilderness, to talk about what happens to faith when prayers for healing go unanswered. After losing her father to cancer as a teenager, Hannah began wrestling with a question many believers quietly carry: What does hope look like when God doesn't do what you asked? They explore the difference between a "transaction of goods" gospel and the communion of persons, the role of the Lord's Supper in shaping Christian imagination, and how Lent invites us to hold suffering and resurrection together. Also, can Hannah and Esau convince Mike to become anglican?
0:00 - Theme Song
1:19 - Making Mike Anglican
7:21 - King's New Book on Ash Wednesday
14:40 - The Book's Thesis
18:10 - Grief
26:07 - Community and Grief
39:22 - End Credits
Feasting on Hope: How God Sets a Table in the Wilderness by Hannah Miller King: https://amzn.to/4aHAvgh
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, welcome to the Esau-McCaulay podcast. |
| 0:08.9 | I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. |
| 0:10.5 | We're joined today by Hannah King. |
| 0:13.1 | She is the associate rector of the Vine Anglican Church somewhere in the mountains of North Carolina. |
| 0:20.0 | Is that correct? |
| 0:21.4 | So that is the correct Carolina. We're in western North Carolina and Clyde. |
| 0:26.1 | Now, Vine is an interesting name. Shouldn't you all be like Church of the Ascentron or something |
| 0:30.1 | really snooty if you're going to be an Anglican church? Why are you guys called the Vine? |
| 0:34.7 | So you're very astute, Esau. |
| 0:37.8 | This church was a non-denominational church for 22 years. |
| 0:42.1 | Oh, non-denom. |
| 0:43.1 | And yeah, and its name was actually Vine of the Mountains, which is very non-denom. |
| 0:48.7 | Yeah. |
| 0:49.4 | Okay. |
| 0:49.7 | And then they discerned a call into the Anglican tradition about three years ago and brought us in as the first Anglican clergy to lead them. So we're just shortening it to the vining church. I mean, this is perfect. This is perfect. This is perfect segue to our opening. Wait, did I even mention that you on the podcast? No, but that's okay. Join also on the podcast, literally because he works here, |
| 1:13.0 | nobody else wants to work with me, is producer Mike. |
| 1:16.2 | I drew the short straw. |
| 1:17.6 | You saw it, but it's great to be here. |
| 1:19.0 | You said because you feel outnumbered because there are like two Anglican clergy here. |
| 1:24.5 | We're going to talk about, today is Thursday. |
| 1:27.0 | Ash Wednesday was yesterday. Hannah has an |
| 1:29.5 | amazing book called Feasting on Hope. We're going to get into all of that stuff in a minute. |
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