Listen, it's the bird show.

So how do you finally get there?

You have that baby and you finally get settled

and you're confident with that post body

or post baby body, I should say.

I mean, you struggle with it and struggle with it

and as there have been a piece of advice that you got

where you're like, you know what, it makes sense.

Because Cassie's been struggling with this.

I have, it's been very difficult,

especially as someone who's overweight

and has struggled for years to get to a place

of acceptance with my body.

And I really felt like I had achieved that.

And after my first pregnancy with my daughter a few years ago,

I mean, I didn't bounce back

but everything settled back into the right places

where it belonged.

Even the way I had gained like 30 pounds, I still felt fine.

Like I still felt settled in my body.

The second pregnancy with my son has been so different

from the get-go.

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