Unpacking our Different Reactions to General Conference (with Ben & Charlie)

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🗓️ 22 October 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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THE Exclusive: In this episode, Charlie and Ben reflect on their contrasting experiences at the most recent General Conference. Charlie had a positive and hopeful experience, while Ben felt deeply hurt and ostracized by certain messages. As they discuss the positives and negatives, the conversation shifts away from the conference itself and becomes more focused on personal pain and frustration. Ben shares his struggles with feelings of exclusion, while Charlie tries to validate his pain but s...

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to All Out in the Open. We are so glad you're here. I'm Charlie Bird. And I'm Ben Shalati. And this is our first The Exclusive episode. So on months where there are five Tuesdays, we're going to have an extra episode where Charlie and I will just talk about current events. We might do a Q&A. It'll be like an extra episode. And for this one, we thought it would be fun to talk about general conference and our experiences with general conference. Yeah, it was kind of fun that
0:23.4	there was actually like a current event on the first exclusive episode. And actually this episode
0:27.5	took such a turn that I was not anticipating. Yeah, we got in a fight. Yeah, it was very interesting.
0:34.1	So Ben and I both had really different experiences at conference he found it
0:37.6	difficult and i found it really inspiring and so we kind of you you serified i don't want to
0:44.2	i felt very invalidated by you and some things that you were saying um and i felt like like
0:51.4	you were being so validated yeah i i didn't know how to come across because i felt
0:56.0	like whatever validation i gave was not received it was really interesting so you're going to hear
1:01.2	that i'm kind of glad we're giving this like a little preemptive warning so it's not just like
1:08.0	awkward because there was resolution i promise yeah and so we're just going to have that first part of our conversation be the exclusive.
1:14.2	And then we'll do the resolution next week.
1:28.7	Charlie, we both got to go to general conference.
1:30.0	Yeah, how was it for you?
1:32.6	I had a mixed experience.
1:32.9	Really?
1:37.3	I got to go to both Saturday sessions in person, and I hadn't been for a while.
1:38.0	Saturday sessions?
1:39.0	Sorry, Sunday sessions. I was like, I didn't see you.
1:40.2	You lied to me.
1:41.5	I was there on Sunday.
1:42.4	I was there a Saturday morning.
1:43.6	But I did watch Olive Conference on Saturday with some friends.
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