Sticking with a Tough Conversation (Part 2 with Ben & Charlie)

All Out in the Open

All Out in the Open, Questions from the Closet

Latter-day Saint, Christ, Society & Culture, Mormon, Gay, Religion & Spirituality, Faith, Lgbtq, Transgender, Church Of Jesus Christ, Christianity, Lgbt, Lds

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🗓️ 29 October 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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OPEN UP: In this episode, Charlie and Ben continue their important conversation, choosing to stay in the discomfort to explore their differing experiences. As they navigate the tension, Ben is able to identify the root of his pain and feelings of rejection, leading to several enlightening “ah-ha” moments. Through this process, they find resolution and understanding. The episode ends with a segment filmed two weeks later, where they each reflect on the discussion and share takeaways for...

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, this is All Out in the Open. I'm Charlie Bird here with Ben Shalati.
0:03.8	I'm thrilled to be here, Charlie.
0:05.3	Amazing.
0:06.5	This is our first open up episode. And on these episodes, we open up and talk about important things going on in one of those lives and in the community at large.
0:14.5	And this is the second half of a conversation that we had last week.
0:18.3	Yeah, this episode's a little bit non-traditional.
0:23.3	So last week we had a conversation and it got a little tense.
0:29.1	And then we made everyone sit in the discomfort for a week, which I think was a little bit awkward for us because we moved through things and then everybody else was reacting.
0:32.7	There was like, I am having feelings about this episode and I'm going to tell you about them.
0:36.9	We moved through it. But I think it was good.
0:39.2	I think that's emblematic of what happens.
0:41.8	Like you have to sit in a lot of discomfort in this LGBTQ religious space.
0:46.1	And that's kind of why we wanted to model that.
0:48.9	So, but that being said, if you haven't listened to the previous episode, go to that first
0:53.6	or the rest of this
0:54.3	probably won't make very much sense.
0:56.4	Yeah.
0:56.6	And one of my friends said something about the last episode that I really love, she said,
1:00.0	the episode felt really awkward and uncomfortable, and I loved it because I've had so many
1:05.2	conversations like that.
1:06.3	Yeah.
1:06.7	And so I feel like we just kind of accidentally captured a conversation.
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