We've got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Suburban women helped determine the 2020 election, but there's more to us in the headlines

would have you believe.

The suburbs aren't a homogeneity of white people in perfect houses.

Real change is happening in the suburbs, and we have things to say.

When women share their personal stories, walls come down and barriers. real change is happening in the suburbs, and we have things to say.

When women share their personal stories, walls come down and barriers are broken.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from red, wine, and blue.

Hi, everyone. Thanks for listening. I'm Rachel Vindman.

I'm Jasmine Clark. I'm Amanda Weinstein. And you're listening to the Suburban Women Problem. Buckle up, everyone, because this week I am sitting down with Sarah Longwell about her podcast, The Focus Group, which is truly a wild ride.

But I appreciated our conversation because she talks about listening to people

with whom she doesn't necessarily agree in an effort that she can understand what they're

thinking and try to change their minds. And I think that's a goal we should all have. And I love that.

And a nice check for me, actually, on my motivation sometimes.

Before that, we're going to chat with Adrian Elrod, who's a Democratic strategist, in hopes that

she can explain a little bit about what's been going on in Washington, because honestly, we're all

a little confused, or at least I am. It seems like everything going

on the hill is a jumbled mess, so we want some help breaking it all down. So before we bring

Adrian in, Jasmine and Amanda, can you explain any of this to our listeners or maybe just to me?

Yeah, so let's talk about the debt ceiling. Please, yes, thank you.

There's a number of things Congress does regularly that are just used as tools to get what

their political party wants, not necessarily what the American people want.

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