Nobody likes to hate themselves forever.

It just, you can't live that way.

That's an abusive state of mind.

What is up, you guys?

What is up to our fitness people, to our lifelong learners and everyone in between today.

Man, we have someone truly special with us.

If you've ever found yourself going into a deep, deep rabbit hole of fitness podcast,

then really our guest needs no introduction,

but his voice is one that resonates in earbuds across the world,

challenging myths, enlightening minds, empowering countless individuals on their wellness journeys,

fitness journeys, and all of the things it has to do in the fitness space.

And from the Powerhouse podcast, Mind Pump, we have the insightful, the candid, the ever curious,

Sal the Stefano with us today. Sal, welcome to the macro hour.

Thank you so much for having me on. That was a really nice introduction. I feel very humbled.

So thank you for saying all wonderful things. Thank you.

You're welcome. You're welcome. So let's dive into the world of fitness, right? The myths,

the trend and so much more. But first, before we do that, how do you personally define fitness?

That's, wow, what a great question. Um, so fitness, there's fitness, health,

wellness, athletic performance. Like, these are all categories, I would say that, um, are under

the health umbrella or within the health sphere. Uh, but when I talk about, and most people

think fitness, they think like physical fitness and

how they look and how they're able to perform. But I trained just everyday people, not fitness

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