[Unedited] Rami Nashashibi and Lucas Johnson with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.7 • 10.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2019

⏱️ 78 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Community organizers Rami Nashashibi and Lucas Johnson have much to teach us about using love — the most reliable muscle of human transformation — as a practical public good. Nashashibi is the founder of the Inner-City Muslim Action Network, a force for social healing on Chicago’s South Side. Johnson is the newly-named executive director of The On Being Project’s Civil Conversations Project. In a world of division, they say despair is not an option — and that the work of social healing requires us to get “proximate to pain.” Rami Nashashibi is founder and executive director of the Inner-City Muslim Action Network (IMAN) in Chicago. He was named a MacArthur fellow in 2017 and an Opus Prize laureate in 2018. Lucas Johnson is the executive director of The On Being Project’s Civil Conversations Project. He was previously international coordinator for the International Fellowship of Reconciliation, a century-old peace-building organization. Lucas is also a community organizer, writer, and a minister in the American Baptist Churches. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Rami Nashashibi and Lucas Johnson — Community Organizing as a Spiritual Practice.” Find more at onbeing.org.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Support for On Being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute, helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world.
0:07.0	Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding principle and animating force for our lives.
0:13.0	A powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world.
0:19.0	Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.
0:22.0	I'm Christa Tippett and this is On Being's Unheard Cut.
0:26.0	Up next, my unedited conversation with Rami Nasha Shibi and Lucas Johnson.
0:31.0	There is a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.
0:36.0	Here we are again.
0:41.0	I'm wearing sandals now. Happy.
0:57.0	We have an hour now with Rami Nasha Shibi and Lucas Johnson.
1:04.0	Again, we are getting to a bio page which I think should be there today sometime.
1:13.0	But there's always Wikipedia.
1:17.0	I've loved Wikipedia ever since I interviewed Jimmy Wales, who used the word kindness
1:25.0	in an hour-long conversation, the word kindness, and that as an ethos of how Wikipedia comes together.
1:31.0	Anybody ever talked to?
1:34.0	I have a hard time describing both of your organizations.
1:39.0	Rami is the founder and leader of the inner-city Muslim action network known as Iman.
1:52.0	It's the southwest side of Chicago.
1:57.0	To be precise.
2:00.0	It would be a holistic approach to presence and healing in the inner-city.
2:15.0	We will talk more about that.
2:18.0	It was through the lens, through the approach of working with initially when you started at a very young age.
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from On Being Studios, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of On Being Studios and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.