[Unedited] Denise Pope and Abraham Verghese with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

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🗓️ 23 May 2019

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Today young people are trying to balance the question of “What do I want to do when I grow up?” with the question of “Who and how do I want to be in the world?” Physician and writer Abraham Verghese and education researcher Denise Pope argue that’s because the way we educate for success doesn’t support the creation of full, well-rounded humans. And they see the next generation challenging our cultural view of success by insisting that a deeply satisfying life is one filled with presence, vulnerability, and care for others. Abraham Verghese is a professor of medicine, vice chair of the Department of Medicine, and Linda R. Meier and Joan F. Lane Provostial Professor at Stanford University. His books of fiction and non-fiction include “My Own Country,” “The Tennis Partner,” and the novel “Cutting for Stone.” He received the National Humanities Medal from President Obama in 2016. Denise Pope is a senior lecturer at Stanford Graduate School of Education and the co-founder of the non-profit organization Challenge Success. She’s the author of “Doing School: How We Are Creating a Generation of Stressed-Out, Materialistic, and Miseducated Students;” and a co-author of “Overloaded and Underprepared: Strategies for Stronger Schools and Healthy, Successful Kids.” This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Abraham Verghese and Denise Pope — How Do You Want to Be When You Grow Up?” Find more at onbeing.org.

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0:00.0	Support for On Being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute, helping build the
0:04.4	Spiritual Foundation for a Loving World. Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding
0:10.2	principle and animating force for our lives. A powerful love that helps us live in sacred
0:15.2	relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world. Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.
0:22.6	I'm Christa Tippett and this is On Being's Unheard Cut. Up next, my unedited conversation
0:28.8	with physician and novelist Abraham Verghese and education researcher Denise Pope.
0:34.1	There is a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.
0:40.8	Good evening everyone. Yeah, there's one person said it. Let's try it again. Good evening everyone.
0:48.9	That's lovely. I'm Harry Yule and I'm the Senior Vice Provost for Education and the Vice Provost
0:56.2	for Undergraduate Education and welcome to this evening and behalf of Stanford University.
1:02.6	I welcome you to the 2019 Mimi and Peter Hoss Distinguished Visitor Lecture. Yes.
1:14.9	This year's Distinguished Visitor is Christa Tippett. She is a Peabody Award-winning
1:20.2	broadcaster as I'm sure you all know. A National Humanities Medalist and a New York Times bestselling
1:25.9	author. She founded and leads the On Being Project, host the On Being Public Radio Show and
1:32.4	podcast, and curates the Civil Conversations Project and emergent approach to conversation and
1:38.3	relationships across the differences of our age. Christa grew up in a small town in Oklahoma,
1:45.1	attended Brown University, became a journalist and a diplomat in the Cold War Berlin,
1:51.7	and later received a Master of Divinity from Yale University. Her books include Becoming Wise
1:58.9	and Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living. I love that title. Einstein's God,
2:05.1	Conversations about Science and the Human Spirit, and we are thrilled to have Christa in
2:10.4	residence at the Hoss Center for Public Service during the duration of the winter quarter.
2:16.3	I'd like to thank Mimi Hoss for her vision and leadership and working with us to establish the
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