Well, welcome all your wiretappers back here in the studio of Gangland Wire.

I have a special show for you today.

An interesting guy, you know, I'm a retired law enforcement and I like having other retired

law enforcement guys on here.

And we're in the middle of a month with the retired ATF.

So I found another ATF agent to interview, Ignacio Esteban. Welcome, Ignacio.

Oh, thank you, Gary. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. All right. Well, I can't remember how I got

on to you. I'm always scanning the internet and looking for books, mob books, and mainly mob because

we primarily deal with the mafia, but other organized crime things like cartels and drug gangs,

you know, narcotics lends itself to organization.

And so it's always organized crime, isn't it?

So I found your book, I guess, I think, or retired ATF agent,

I don't know, but I saw that and I started investigating.

And man, I tell you what, Ignacio, you are a prolific writer.

I will say that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Gary.

Folks, just get out there and I'm going to put some images up, but go to my,

or go to my show notes if you're on the audio podcast. And I'll put

links to, or I put a link to his Amazon page and he's got all of his books on there. He's got

a ton of them. And they're all more like as we talked and I was reading about them,

they're short reads and we've got politics, we've got organized crime, we've got

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