All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast, I'm Michael Jervay.

And the idea behind these conversations is to sit down with people who are on the path of

mastery, to understand their psychological framework, which is not an easy thing to do.

Psychological frameworks, like even though it's just two simple little words, it's dynamic and it's

complicated and it's invisible and it's moving and it's not something that is static and rigid, especially for those

that are on the creative spectrum and those that are pushing the edges and boundaries of

what they think is possible for themselves and sometimes what ends up being possible for a global standard.

And you know we're wanting to understand the inner, the mental skills and the way that they understand how to refine the mental part of the game to refine their craft.

And these conversations, they're rich.

And because of that, we've also opened up another podcast called minutes on mastery, which are insights and applied

gems from those on the Path of Mastery and sent to you under three minutes a day.

And it's just a way to stay fresh and current

with some of the past conversations and some of the current ones as well.

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