All right. Welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervay. In the idea behind these conversations,

well I mean I've said it enough, you know what it is, it's to look and understand and learn from the best in the world on how they're doing what they do.

You know, particularly we want to understand what are the psychological skills and the framework that they use

and to understand, you know, what is driving them, what is underneath their pursuit.

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