Looking for ways to use less fuel.

At SO, we can help.

Small changes we can make today

can start to help win the energy challenges we all face.

Like your choice of fuel,

making the fuel you buy go further

and even finding alternatives to using it in the first place.

We call this Thoughtful Driving.

The journey won't be easy,

but we want to start it with you.

Not what you're expecting to hear from a fuel company.

Well, at SO, we think it's time that changed.

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Welcome to part two of our conversation with Brian Messinger

about uncovering the dead.

Let's start on the train because I do want to go back to the the priest house.

I want to talk about your experience in the church rectory.

I think those two can almost tie together and somewhat.

But I want to let's talk about the train.

Let's talk about kind of almost inanimate objects.

You know, a train being a very large inanimate object,

but still an object.

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