You are listening to an art media podcast.

So on the third graph of this memo titled under horrific events and images,

Sinua writes events must be planned in advance from which horrific images will emerge and create

terrifying destruction, heartbreaking sites, a terrible fire, five or even ten images will instill

mortal fear in the Israelis. Then he says two or three operations must be organized whose purpose

is the burning of an entire neighborhood or a kibbutz.

They will pour fuel or diesel from a special tanker, burn the place, and broadcast the images.

And then he goes to explain what's the purpose of decapitating bodies and injecting it into social media?

At 7 p.m. on Wednesday, October 22nd here in New York City, it is 2 a.m. on Thursday, October 23rd in Israel,

where Israelis continue to slowly receive bodies of the remains of hostages that were killed on October 7th and were in Gaza.

Before we get into today's conversation, just one

quick housekeeping note, a reminder that on Thursday, October 23rd at 8.30 p.m. Amit Segal and

Nadavail and I will be at the Stryker Center in New York City for a live podcast, a live taping of the Call Me Back podcast, where we will be having a long and meaty conversation about where Israel is now post deal, or at least as the deal is being implemented, and where things are going.

And then we have a bunch of other questions that have been sent into us from Inside Call Me Back

subscribers that we will be getting into as well. A lot of ground to cover. It'll be in front of a live

audience. If you are still interested in registering, please go to the Stryker Center website or just

follow the link in the show notes to register. There's still a few seats left. Now on to today's conversation. Tuesday night,

Hamas returned the bodies of two more slain hostages, later identified as 85-year-old Ari Zamanovich

and 38-year-old Tamir Adar, both residents of Kibbutz near Oz. In fact, Zalmanovich was one of the founders of Kippuz

near Oz. This brings the total number of hostages bodies still being held by Hamas to 13.

Hamas claims that it is unable to locate the remaining corpses and will require additional machinery to do so.

Meanwhile, U.S. envoy Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner were back in Israel this morning

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