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If you have values, they're going to cost you something.

Democracies that appreciate life, they're going to pay a heavy price for that,

more than dictatorships.

That's the truth.

In this villa in the jungle, there is a

promise. That's the Israeli contract. It says, you're going to live here in the Middle East. It's

going to be very difficult for you, and people are going to try and kill you all the time. But within this

house, it's all for one and one fall. If we fail on that, what's left of us?

This is not ideals versus powerful realism. It is to preserve the essence of Israel in order to win.

What if the price of releasing these hostages is having Hamas being able to

kidnap more hostages in the future? Imagine a chess game in which you must kill the king.

But your opponent needs only to take your pawn. Each and every pawn they take makes them win the king. But your opponent needs only to take your pawn. Each and every pawn they take

make them win the game. Checkmate. They took the pawn, checkmate. They took the bishop,

checkmate. They took 251 pawns, checkmate. That was the deal that was offered to Israel.

How would we act next time if there are more

hostages?

It's 3.45 p.m. on Sunday, October 26th here in New York City. It's 9.45 p.m. on Sunday,

October 26 in Israel, where Israelis are beginning a new week. On Saturday, U.S. Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, departed Israel after a two-day trip that directly followed visits

by Vice President Vance, Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff, and Jared Kushner. Rubio toured the U.S.

led center for overseeing the Gaza Seas Fire in Kiriat Gott, where he told reporters that the

U.S. is seeking support from its allies in building an international stabilization force

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