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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Hamas Retakes Gaza - with Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib and Joseph Braude

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media, Ilan Benatar

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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0:00.0

You are listening to an art media podcast.

0:09.5

Those who have lost their homes, they've lost their loved ones.

0:12.7

Those who are waiting for food handouts, they're not standing there and thinking, wow, Hamas did us a solid with October 7th.

0:20.4

They're viewing Hamas's failures and

0:23.1

horrors, not just in terms of the last two years, but as the crowning achievement of failures

0:29.3

of the last two decades after the withdrawal of Israeli settlements and the disengagement.

0:34.4

What's emerging here, Dan, is a story of two Gazas.

0:39.0

A Gaza behind the yellow line in which an IDF presence remains, anti-Hamas fighting forces,

0:46.4

and an increasing number of Gazans civilians begin a reconstruction project.

0:53.8

And in those areas, you might well say that the war is over.

0:58.3

But in the rest of Gaza, fighting will in all likelihood continue, because Hamas plainly

1:05.1

will not voluntarily depart the strip or disarm. And so Trump's plan can be fully implemented while the ceasefire

1:14.6

does not hold, because Trump's plan allows for the reconstruction process to move forward,

1:22.1

even if Hamas does not lay down its weapons.

1:37.7

Thank you. does not lay down its weapons. It's 10 p.m. on Sunday, October 19th here in New York City.

1:41.5

It is 5 a.m. on Monday, October 20th in Israel, where Israelis are

1:46.2

questioning whether or not the Gaza ceasefire will hold. Before we get into today's news

1:51.2

updating conversation, just a quick housekeeping note, a reminder that we will be hosting a live

1:57.6

taping of Call Me Back this Thursday night, October 23rd at 8.30 p.m. at the Stryker Center in New York City.

2:05.0

It'll be me with Nadaviel and Amit Segal, unpacking a lot of questions still unanswered as the steel is attempted to be implemented.

2:14.9

And there's news developing actually through the week as we are seeing and we'll get

2:19.1

into today and we'll be getting into on Thursday night. So if you'd like to attend the event,

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