This is the Unchained Binge Podcast. I'm Kayle Frets. We're going to go deep on Netflix's new Tour de France's doci series, Unchained.

Today is episode 5, Breakneck Speed.

In today's episode, we get a lesson in descending from Tom Pinkock.

We warm up to a rider in the twilight of his career,

and we confirm in Nielsen Palace at a great breakfast.

Let's get to it. All right,

crew, episode five. I enjoyed this one.

Joining me today. Kit Nicholson, how are you Kit? I'm right thank you. Finally

warm. Oh finally warm that's good. And Johnny Long welcome back.

Hello happy to be back after a couple of rest episodes off.

And Abby Mickey, how are you Abby?

Hello, I'm great.

So episode 5, episode 5 was e.F heavy and anyos heavy and those are the two

teams that this this particular episode focused on and I do think that it is

interesting to note that they pick these two to sit next to each other

and in fact they have only run EF kind of next to a juggernaut really and it's it's almost it seems purposeful to me to make

EF feel like this little underdog little guy. Jonathan Vauter certainly plays that up,

both in the earlier episodes and in this episode.

Do we think that that is effective?

Like do you have a sense of,

do you want to root for E..F after the way that they're portrayed

in both that earlier episode and episode 5? I don't know if I if it makes me want to

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