These are some of the steepest kilometers of the entire bike race on the Puyden film And it kind of sticks up out of the middle of nowhere

and has, I think, two kilometers at 12%.

The average is 6, 7% for the whole climb.

It is incredibly, incredibly difficult. Welcome back to the placeholder podcast everybody. I'm

Kayle Frets joining me today to talk Tour de France. We're doing a big deep

dive on the Tour de France. We're doing a big deep dive on the Tour de France route today.

We're going to go stage by stage. We're going to talk about all the biggest scariest stages.

We're going to talk about the kind of unique way that it's going to make its way across France this year and joining me to chat through that.

Dane Cash, how are you Dane?

I'm doing good, Kaley, how are you?

I'm great.

And it's not your first time in the podcast is it Joe on

placeholders I think other than the

the interview I did with you and Wade pre-launch that's right well

Joe you came over to my kitchen and we recorded a

segment as well. That's right. That's right. That was a stand-alone

segment. Yeah. Well for everybody out there who only listens to our podcast you may not be familiar with Joe Lindsay but Joe is an integral part of the escape collective

Maybe the biggest story people would have read from you recently was a pretty in-depth investigation into the ZAF issue, which is what you guys were talking about at your on your kitchen table.

Yeah, Joe's gonna join for today's episode

as we talk through the tour.

Before we get into that, though, I do need to mention,

and I need to thank some of our lifetime members if you listen to this

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