Ukraine: Will NATO follow through? Anatol Lieven
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🗓️ 4 July 2025
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel to Paris, Anatol Levin, head of the Eurasia project for the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, now traveling on the continent. |
| 0:16.6 | The blazing sun has broken for good weather for a moment across all of continental Europe, |
| 0:23.7 | except the hotspot of Ukraine, which remains rhetorically volcanic. |
| 0:28.7 | I go immediately to the Wall Street Journal for Anatole's comment. |
| 0:33.6 | American determined should be a rising stock after President Trump's successful strikes on the |
| 0:38.6 | Iranian nuclear program and a NATO commitment to spend big on defense, but writes the Wall Street |
| 0:44.8 | Journal editorial page. The commander-in-chief is now displaying weakness against Russia, which |
| 0:50.3 | won't produce a strong and lasting peace in Ukraine. What weakness? |
| 0:57.6 | We're told, according to the Wall Street Journal's editorial page, |
| 1:03.1 | our sources tell us the holdback includes Patriot Air Defense missiles, |
| 1:07.8 | health fire missiles, 8,500 how it surrounds, and other ammunition. |
| 1:13.7 | Some of it already in Poland for transfer to Kiev, but put a hold on that. |
| 1:19.1 | Anatole, a very good evening to you. Here we are on the eve of the 4th of July holiday. |
| 1:25.7 | The Iranian matter with Israel has not settled, but it's certainly not a shooting war. |
| 1:29.5 | However, the unfinished business is Ukraine. |
| 1:33.8 | I note that the President of the United States mentioned it the other day in passing that Mr. Putin had called him and said he's ready to help about Iran. |
| 1:39.0 | The President said, I need help about Russia. |
| 1:41.2 | And now they hold back weapons. |
| 1:42.8 | Is that help? |
| 1:43.6 | Good evening to you, Anatole. |
| 1:46.0 | Well, it certainly doesn't help Ukraine because some of these weapons the Europeans can substitute |
| 1:53.0 | for, at least in the longer term. |
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