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#UKRAINE:US AND UKRAINE MINING PARTNERS, CLIFF MAY FDD

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🗓️ 2 May 2025

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#UKRAINE:US AND UKRAINE MINING PARTNERS, CLIFF MAY FDD
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.5

I welcome my good colleague Cliff May,

0:14.4

the president and founder of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy's writing his Washington Times column

0:19.8

with a recommendation to the Trump

0:21.8

administration, to the government in Kiev, to Moscow, to any on all listening in Europe, sign the

0:28.5

minerals deal, get it done. No matter what the backstory is, this will be a demonstration that the

0:35.8

U.S. will stay involved in Ukraine indefinitely because there's

0:39.3

money in it. And then news comes that the minerals deal with Ukraine is signed. Cliff, congratulations.

0:47.5

This is a surprising moment that the White House listened to the FD. Are you pleased? Good evening to you, Cliff.

0:55.1

Yeah, I'm pleased. This is the way it's supposed to work, and I hope there won't be any deviation from

0:59.8

this protocol going forward. And the deal looks to you a positive between Washington and Kiev,

1:08.0

between Washington and Moscow. The fact is that the United States now has

1:14.1

an investment to protect in Ukraine and can't easily give it up. Does that change the direction

1:20.7

of the talks about Mr. Trump leaving Europe? Oh, I think it does. I think it does. I think Steve

1:27.3

Besson, who I think

1:28.4

was, helped advise on this and has thought this through. I had some very good quotes on this.

1:35.2

The U.S. is making an investment in the security, in the independence, in the sovereignty of

1:41.5

Ukraine. It's an economic investment, but it's more than that. I think it's,

1:46.5

so I think it's very positive. I don't think President Trump is likely to walk away from the

1:52.2

negotiations as he was threatening to do a week so ago because he's been very frustrated. His

1:58.1

frustration is justified, but his frustration is not just if I was Zelensky,

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