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Ukraine conflict.

The news is puzzling and at the same time auspicious.

Within days, the gathering of eagles at Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania, all the NATO

leaders looking to make momentous decisions about war in Ukraine.

It is an irony that Vilnius is within bicycling distance of the Belarusian border where the

rogue, mutineer, Pregosan is said to be camped with Poland says 8,000 of his fighters.

There is a report in London that Pregosan is flying back and forth between Minsk and Moscow,

no confirm.

I welcome Colonel Jeff McCasin in the United States Army retired CBS News.

He is a visiting professor at Dickinson College as well as the CEO of Diamond Six Leadership

and Strategy.

In addition to all that, he's traveling.

He's doing this from Kenya and I thank him very much.

Jeff, you're a veteran of NATO.

NATO meetings are always consequential though they're not usually dealing with existential

matters.

We are now with the threat of Pregosan's mutiny not solved with the disappearance of major

figures in the Russian military and also with the question hanging fire about Ukraine and NATO.

What is your thinking right now about what NATO can accomplish in these next days?

The meeting is 11th and 12th of July.

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