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This is the Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Batchler.

I welcome Professor H.J. Mackender,

Moscow point of view after a week of dueling speeches between the presidents.

Vladimir Putin in Moscow,

claiming that NATO attacked Russia,

Russia's fighting to sustain itself against an overwhelming force.

And the President of the United States after a bold and brave visit to Kiev,

under Warsaw,

where the President asserted Russia attacked Ukraine and must leave,

and that the US and NATO support Ukraine as long as it takes.

Professor, a very good evening to you.

Thank you. Moscow's point of view.

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